TATERNATOR II

The supersonic breech loading all aluminum spud gun

Length10' 5"
Weight59 lbs
FuelAcetylene or MAPP
OxidizerAir or Oxygen
Barrel1.5" X 8'
Chamber3"id, 1/4"wall, 2'long
MaterialAircraft Aluminum
IgnitionAutomotive Ignition Coil
Cost$700 + 100 hours
Power1263 FPS
DistanceOver 1000'
Accuracy+/- 12" @ 100'
The Taternator in use  Top view
Destruction Video  Rear Manifold Detail Air guage for multi-atmosphere mixes Barrel Clamps and Front Manifold detail
Front Manifold, Low-flow Valve Chamber Overview Right Side Barrel Clamp fasteners detail
Control Panel Overview
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Breech open showing Receiver/Cutter Front Manifold detail Receiver/Cutter detail
Windage Motor
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Fred's Tripod Side View
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Spud in Breech 8 foot barrel
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Recent Developments

Since this page was written, many things have changed on the gun.
    Steel tripod pictured above
  • Made by fellow spudder Fred Haber
  • Motorized windage and elevation
  • Adjustable mount height
  • Legs fold for easy transport
  • Tripod has mounts for fresh air blower, air compressor, battery and control panel
    Ultra-high-power mods and test results
  • Made 8' barrel to replace 4' barrel. Added wire & pulley counterweight to support long barrel.
  • Reached 1263 FPS (over Mach 1) using 30 PSI pressurized air/MAPP.
  • Using Shooting Chrony to measure speed.
  • Maximum distance is well over 1000'
  • Sealed off Low Flow vent and other points that leaked at high fueling pressure.
  • Using "burst disc" to allow pre-ignition pressurization of fuel/oxygen mix.
  • Built 100' trigger wire for added safety
  • Having trouble with hotter mixes because the spud slug is vaporizing inside the barrel. The spud exits as a cloud of cooked goo.
  • Wax slugs solve vaporization problem

But . . .  Why?

I started building PVC spud guns about 15 years ago after seeing an example a friend made. Like most people who see one for the first time, I couldn't stop rolling on the ground laughing!

After using PVC for a while, I thought it would be cool to build a small-caliber, all copper, self-contained gun with breech loading and a basket on top like a paintball gun. You'd work the bolt and a fresh spud would drop in. The lever action would simultaneously operate the air and fuel valves. As I started to draw this, it became clear that this was a lot of work for something that was relatively small-potatoes.

Meanwhile, a draftsman friend was working on a military "Gas Gun." This was a gigantic ship-mounted Howitzer that could lob shells 7 miles away. The Gas Gun could reload so fast, that with high trajectory, you could launch several shells in quick succession which would all arrive at the target (+/- a few yards) simultaneously. This was the inspiration for the fully self-contained, rapid loading nature of the Taternator II.

So I scaled everything up to something similar to traditional PVC gun size, plus a bit extra to push it firmly into the realm of OMG WTF??? and built this all aluminum spud gun. By far, the most complicated part is the breech loading - it had to be fast, easy to use, and very strong to support the full weight of the extended barrel. The rest of the gun is much stronger than usual to allow chamber pressures up to 300 PSI that would shrapnel PVC on the first shot.

I'm sorry that I can't post mechanical drawings. I have piles of them, but the design changed constantly during construction, so the drawings are no longer accurate - merely inspiration.

What It's Like

This thing packs a serious punch. It's much louder than a normal hairspray spud gun, more like a handgun. Not like "foom!" More like "POW!" echoing through the hills like a gunshot. Not quite loud enough to want ear protection unless you are down-range of the muzzle blast. Without a spud, makes a handy noisemaker with fast firing rate. Recoil is enough to knock itself off a normal tripod, so I built a seriously heavy duty gun mount with pan and tilt. It will puncture fresh 3/4" plywood at 50' (with a potato). It is extremely easy to use. Reload and shoot in about 15 seconds, 10 seconds with two operators. Never misfires unless your get the fuel mixture wrong. The scope is mostly for show, but makes it very easy to hit the target every time. After about 100', the accuracy falls off hard as the air has time to move the slug in random directions. A 1' blue-white flame is visible in dim light. After sustained firing, chamber and barrel get warm but not hot. MAPP tank lasts for thousands of shots. Battery rarely needs charging. Can clip onto car battery if you're in a pinch.

People's reactions are similar to the plastic spud gun: Some can't stay away, some can't stay far enough away. A few more people are afraid to come near this gun, but get over it pretty quick when they see a 10 year-old use it. Although a spud gun is clearly a "guy thing," I find that gals want to try it first, and tend to hit the bullseye more often. There is general consensus that it should be kept hidden in public and would probably get me arrested for transporting a WMD (Weapon of Mashed Destruction[1]). It's very easy to teach people how to use this gun, as it's just blower-spud-charge-fire. No ramrod, no counting the seconds of fuel, no misfiring. Instead of the challenge being, "Just hit the target," it's more like, "Hit the center of the target."

The gun rarely needs cleaning, as it blast-cleans itself every shot. The MAPP gas does not leave behind water vapor like propane does. The only residue is tiny flakes of spud from the cutting action. The flakes tend to blast out as yellow sparks. The outside gets pretty sloppy, as the leftover ring of cut spud gets pulverized when the breech closes. If needed, the gun can be broken down in a few minutes with simple tools.

Theory of Operation

  • Open breech. Hold spud in breech and close. Spud is cut to size and the surplus spud is mashed (and hopefully ejected) by the Barrel Clamp against the Front Manifold. The Actuator Levers create tremendous closing force.
  • Open Meter Valve for a moment which pressurizes the Metering Tube[2] to the setting of the Fuel Regulator. This charge is identical for every shot which is critical for complete combustion and consistent power.
  • Open Charge Valve for a moment. The measured volume of gas flows into Chamber at the rear manifold. To prevent the spud slug from being pushed down the barrel, the Low-flow Vent stays open until firing and allows the pressure to flow out freely.
  • Inside the chamber is a 22" long 1/4" aluminum pipe. The pipe is perforated by several very tiny (1/64") holes to distribute fuel evenly.
  • Aim, press button. Power feeds to the Ignition Coil and the Relay simultaneously. When the Relay energizes, it disconnects the ground side of the Ignition Coil. The Condenser reduces arcing inside the Relay. The Ignition Coil is energized only for that split second before the relay clicks. The spark is generated at the moment of disconnect as the magnetic field collapses.
  • Inside the Chamber, the Ignition Wire runs the length of the 22" aluminum pipe, and is broken in 3 places, terminating at the far end of the pipe as a ground. The spark arcs between all 3 breaks simultaneously, igniting fuel in several places at once[3].
  • Your target is now destroyed.
  • Flip on Air Blower for a few seconds. CO2 from fuel combustion is replaced by fresh air, delivered at the Rear Manifold.
  • Power for blower and ignition is supplied by a small 12V lawnmower battery.

    Construction

    I used aircraft grade aluminum in all high-pressure and high leverage areas. Most plumbing is 1/4" flare fittings. All parts are machined from raw stock. A friend let me use his small machine shop. Another friend turned the large barrel and chamber on a huge CNC lathe which I was not allowed to operate ;) which is a good thing, since the gouge in the barrel, 1.000 +-.0001 inches from the front clamp is because of my own faulty measuring.

    The combustion chamber is held in place between the front and rear manifolds by four 3/8-16 high-tensile steel rods. The 4x4x2" manifold blocks are drilled through at the corners. Lock nuts are kept fairly tight, pretensioning the rods. There is no glue or gasket compound anywhere. Seals are ensured by precise machining.

    The rear manifold is pretty simple: 3 fresh air holes are drilled from the chamber into a larger supply bore, and the fresh air check valve threads into a side hole tapping into that large fresh air bore. Fuel enters at the top, drilled down to the exact center of the block. Inside the chamber, a 1/4" flare nipple threads into the exact center of the block, meeting the fuel supply bore. A 1/4" aluminum pipe 22" long fits onto that nipple and brings fuel into the chamber through many tiny holes distributed along its length. The ignition wire slips trough the back of the manifold right next to the fuel nipple and runs the whole 22" length of the fuel pipe. The ignition wire is broken in several places by 1/8" gaps, causing a chain of sparks all the way up to the far end of the fuel pipe where the final spark hits the grounded pipe. The fuel pipe is jacketed in thick silicone tubing where the ignition wire breaks occur, which prevents arcing to the fuel pipe prematurely. Ignition wire is zip-tied and siliconed to the fuel pipe to be blast resistant.

    The front manifold is very complex and drilled like swiss cheese. The exact center is bored out to the ID of the barrel. The frontmost inch of the manifold is bored to the exact OD of the barrel, so the barrel fits in perfectly, cutting the spud. At the top of the front manifold is the low-flow valve, which allows pressure relief when fuel is flowing, but snaps shut buy the extreme combustion pressure. A 1" circle of 1/4" holes is drilled straight down 1/2", meeting an oval slot which goes backward into the combustion chamber. The block above the manifold has a single 1/2" hole. A 1" dia by 1/4" thick brass disk makes the seal during combustion, slamming up against the small block. The vertical groove in the face of the front manifold was intended to be a seating point for vertical cutters on the barrel clamp, but turned out to be unnecessary.

    The barrel clamps are each two pieces, bored to slightly less than the barrel OD. The barrel has shallow slots cut into it to accept the clamps. The two clamps are rigidly locked together by four 1/4-28 high-tensile steel rods. The whole assembly is a rigid box, allowing the barrel to slide and keeping the breech aligned with the center of the front manifold. Each clamp has four hardened 1/4-28 4" bolts which lock the clamp on the slots in the barrel without crushing the barrel. The outermost rear bolts are shoulder bolts with unthreaded sections where the actuator levers can hinge, serving a dual role. The four actuator levers fit into slots at the ends of the rear clamp.

    The scope rail is rigidly secured to the barrel clamps. Mounting the scope to the the barrel is crucial, as the barrel has a small amount of play when in the closed position, so a chamber mounted scope would never be accurate. A flat plate moves the scope rail far enough away from the gun so you can fit your face there.

    The 1/2" steel rods that the barrel clamps slide on are drilled into the face of the front manifold, then secured from the side by the same long bolts that secure the clamp hinge. The slides are strong enough to support the dangling weight of the barrel without bending, so the barrel slides smoothly front and back. High-tech plastic bushings prevent contact between the clamps and slide rods.

    The large actuator handles generate tremendous force when closing the breech, similar to bolt cutters. The handles are slotted onto hinges bolted to the sides of the front manifold. The four actuator levers hinge on the handles with 1/4" shoulder bolts.

    Improvements since this page was posted

  • Built new fuel metering systems to allow rapid changeover to any combination of metered air, oxygen, propane, MAPP and acetylene.
  • Built 8' barrel to replace 4' barrel[4]. The 8' barrel can better utilize the extreme combustion gas volume from oxygen, acetylene and MAPP fuel combinations.
  • Rebuilt interior fuel pipe and igniter with aluminum and silicone parts to ensure safety with pure oxygen and acetylene.
  • Increased diameter of truss rods for safety.
  • Machined rough-sawn metal parts to make them pretty.
  • Built heavy duty tripod with pan and tilt. Tripod is collapsible for transport.
  • Improved low-flow check valve to be more difficult to close so fresh air blower does not cause closure.
  • Improved trigger with toggle style momentary switch. Switch can be instantly placed on a 50' long wire for safe distancing of yourself from dangerous fuel combinations.
  • Acetylene fuel produces an unbelievable bang when the breech is empty, similar to a 9mm handgun. Results with spud are only slightly better than MAPP fuel.
    1Thank you to www.spudgun.com for the WMD pun. 2,3Special thanks to www.burntlatke.com for the metering pipe and multiple-spark concepts. Their "Fuel Tool" is a useful calculator for determining chamber vs barrel ratio and fuel to air ratio. 4Thank you to Chris Saiko and Jacob Larson for their inspiring cinderblock destroying 20' Spud Cannon. I would like to acknowledge www.spudtech.com who has also created an all-aluminum breech loading spud gun.

    Frank Kennedy, fkennedy at taconic dot net
    Hancock, Massachusetts

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